> OK, I accept both of those things. However, there is still > a nagging question: If I do, in spite of good advice, want to play > around with a C chip, what is the best way to program it? Depends which one it is. I started with a simple parallel programmer but all it does is 16C84. Just a 74LSsomething and a 555 booster Just talking about "playing around with" OTPs gets my sphincter tightening. 'orrible things to develop on. And spare me the fuffing about with UV and pricey windowed parts. Yuck Wouter said - > The alternative is use once and throw away OTP can be used more than once, if the code is less than half the space available (Microchip thoughtfully made FF NOP), and you are limited by how many bits are in the start org > Maybe you are a much better programmer than I am? Even when I developed 68HC products using an emulator, I never felt comfortable burning an OTP. Money down the drain if it needed changing -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist