On January 29, 2006 11:18 am, John Nall wrote: > This is kind of picking up where I left off some time ago, when I was > asking if the Wisp628 would program a one-time-programmable EPROM > chip, and Wouter responded that it would not, because it couldn't > supply the amount of current necessary. Someone else chimed in, Olin > I believe, that C chips were evil in any case and that I should > stick with flash chips. Evil C chips, now that is interesting to hear. Probably a couple of errata that got corrected later with the F series chips. In other words, if you don't have chips, it is recommended you get the latest chips, which are F series instead of messing around with older stock which are eventually going to get phased-out of production. > OK, I accept both of those things. First, expect less help, because you ignored good advice. ;-P > However, there is still a nagging question: If I do, in spite of > good advice, want to play around with a C chip, what is the best way > to program it? Will an ICD2 do that as a matter of course? Some C chips need to be programmed in parallel fashion, therefore have to be physically out of the circuit to program so they cannot be programed in-circuit. You will need to read the microchip website documentation for programming those chips you have in question. Some can be programmed serially, others cannot. Plus the programming voltages/currents/etc are different. > Will Olin's EasyProg do it? If the programmer you have does not specify it can handle a C, then it is likely it won't, so don't expect it to magically work. This means you have to read the documentation for what the programmer can and cannot program. > Would I have to build some sort of parallel programmer? What is the > best way? Sounds like just a personal project, and you probably got to build your own programmer or buy a picprogrammer that can handle them. You might want to go to google and enter these 3 search words: pic16c programmer schematic >From that search, this random page appeared interesting: http://www.jdm.homepage.dk/newpics.htm ...but it was the 1st page I looked at. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist