Going more and more "off-pist", but... Another source that I've fpund having good Microchip prices in general, is Farnell. And they charges less in shipping. Still, I think buy.mc.com was some cheaper anyway. And, as Wouter pointed out, for, let's say 100+ of PICs, the MC shipping charges are OK. Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist