----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan B. Pearce" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [EE] 2.4 GHz over water??? > OK, I have thought about it, and remember the problems that TV link > technicians had many years ago with a link that went over water - using an > RF frequency in this general range. They had problems with the link fading > and dropping out, in a cyclic manner. It turned out that the mid point of > the link was a tidal inlet, and the reflection off the water had a path > length that changed with the height of the tide, and produced cancellation > with the direct line path. The solution was to ensure that one end of the > link could not "see" the water at any time. > This example is for fixed stations - and this is absolutely true. If something is in the first fresnel zone you will get additional attenuation change which can lead to fading. But it is extremely unlikely that 2 boats on the water can hold their positions so exactly that the fading will be constant. I have calculated the link for the standard WLANs power out and colinear antennas on both boats with an antenna gain of 6 dB over an isotropic antenna. The additional fresnel zone attenuation is 8 dB, the free space path loss is around 100 dB. So the dynamic range at the receiver at 11 MBit/s is around 6 dB, which is not really much but it will work under normal circumstances. If you want to have the calculation please let me know. Enrico OE1EQW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist