Have a look at this Microchip advisory for the ICD2, it identifies a number of issues. I have had ground problems as Bob mentioned. http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/icd2_advisory_51566b.pdf Regards, Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist