> generates +/- 0-8v spikes on the power ...... Andrew, Vdd flicks between Vdd+8 and Vdd-8 ? I've not had it quite that bad but have had troubles with a PIC right next to relays. Some things you may have to resort to - Enclosing the PIC in a grounded metal shield Ferrite beads on I/O wires and using shielded cable RC + Zener after the regulator Schottky diodes (a to Vss, k to pin), to catch sub-Vss spikes -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist