This is an interesting discussion. I've been thinking of approaching the local electronic parts retailer (we still have one!) about possibly doing a PIC class in their store. It would draw people to their store (I hope) who would buy the parts for the projects there. Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist