> Have you considered giving each student a breadboard and a PIC > with a Bootloader? Each student would need only a few > components. You must also consider powering. A serial bootloader would require a separate power (wall wart) or an extra cable to steal USB power. An usb-to-serial converter (FT232) could be used, but that would be an extra chip. And bootloader can be overwritten by a clever programmer (remember, these are students!). The current setup uses a pickit1 clone circuit, powered from the USB and supported by uChips software. Next year I'll probably switch to a pickit2 clone. > With this setup, the students could be given a handful of > additional parts for each lab. E.g. LEDs, switches, 7 segment > displays, LCDs, etc. For certain course objectives that would be a good idea. But remember, these are informatics students, not electronics. I wanted something they could take home, which favours an all-in-1 PCB. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist