Mike Hord wrote: > My initial thought is something like Olin's Quickproto > and Easy prog, but at ~$140 per setup, it might shy > away a few people. That's the single quantity price for a QuickProto-01 ($40) and a fully assembled EasyProg ($100). This would certainly not be the price for a class. Even for 3 at a time the QuickProto-01 price goes down to $33. I'll be the first to admit the fully assembled version of the EasyProg is not a good value. I'm really interested in selling kits, but some people asked for assembled units. These are all built one-off by hand here in the US, so there is no way to make them cheaply, but the volumes are so low it's not worth getting them built elsewhere. In fact I give the manufacturer the same kits you buy and have them build up just 5 at a time. If you don't want students to have to build their tools first, I don't think I have a good programmer solution for you at this time. When will this course start? You should also think about how the students are going to debug their code. Do you want them to have a debugger, or are they going to test on the simulator and wiggle pins for final hardware debugging? My recommendation is each student gets a QuickProto-01, a 18F2520, and some sort of programmer. Maybe Wouter has something? As I've said before, I'm willing to give an educational discount if everything for a class is bought at one time. I do believe the QuickProto-01 at $33 is a good value, and I'm thinking $30 each for a class of 10 or more, or something like that. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist