> The soldering of so many will still suck, but that's where I grunt > and > say I'm a man, or something. If you are building more than 1 or 2 of these an auto insertion machine would be nice. Even as a one off surface mount components may make sense - aesthetically as well as circuit wise. Will your thermochromatic paint have faded too much after say 50 years ? :-) Who can tell you? Do you trust them? Do you care? :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist