Hello all I read on the internet there is a version of JAL for PIC 18F but i cannot find it anywhere. Is it closed source or i can get it from someone on this list ? I am mainly interested in programming the PIC18F4550 and for this i ordered an Pickit 2. I need jal to start making some small programs for PIC and learn from them the asm (at least this is what i think :-) ). Do you have some other suggestions for me as a beginner ? Should i use a C compiler instead of JAL ? I tried to use one once but because of the lack of examples i dropped it. Thank you in advance for your time Dumitru Stama -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist