This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0090_01C61B62.542D2EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again Thanks to everyone for their help so far. I still haven't got my programmer working yet, though. :-( I believe the board that I have (picture at www.smartcti.com/pictutor.jpg) may be a pre-cursor of the PicMicro (formerly PicTutor) at http://www.epemag.com/cdptut.htm. I seem to remember this software though I have of course lost it. (Does anyone have a schematic diagram of this - version 2.1?) It is basically a 'quick and dirty' programmer. Only pins 2, 3 and ground are connected from the parallel cable. The circuit diagram (as best as I could do) is at www.smartcti.com/ptdiagram.jpg. I haven't show the circuit for the 'demo' part of the PCB because it is too complex for me to draw. I can check certain bits if need be. I don't know the values of the capacitors or resistors (they're too small). Also, I might have drawn the zener diode the wrong way around. I am now using a different PC (I have tried two in fact) from before and this may be the problem. Using WinPicProg and Fpp, I have made sure that the signals are being sent to RB7 and RB6 on the chip (they appear at around 3.5v when high), but I am worried that either this voltage isn't high enough or that the data is being sent too fast. Both WinPicProg and Fpp appear to have maximum values for 'delays'. Also, I can't find any instructions or help for either program with a view to how to set the timers etc. I have even tried really small programs but still no good. The power supply I am using is 18v at 750ma. MCLR registers 13.1v when high. Vdd registers 5.0v. when high. I don't mind adding extra circuits to the board (within reason) but wonder whether it would just be easier to scrap the board and start again. This would be a shame though as the board is very useful as a 'demonstrator' because it has the buttons and LEDs. 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