On Jan 15, 2006, at 6:36 PM, kravnus wolf wrote: > why no cheaper development programmer with multiple motorola MCU > support? I'm pretty sure almost all of the Mot chips have a built-in download and program mode; connect up the right crystal and set the pins appropriately, and they'll download standard serial protocols and stuff it into flash... "no need for a real programmer." (hah!) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist