In message <25b178740601141454o186b7fb4sa30586dcf3c8f536@mail.gmail.com> David VanHorn wrote: > "Dark Side" is an AVR trademark! :) How true. So is "Six Month Leadtime" :) Seems AVRs are in perpetually short supply. Maybe they're trying MICROS~1's "limit demand to drum up interest" trick - thing is, it seems to be having the opposite effect. At least PICmicros are still in plentiful supply. I do wish Microchip would fix the "RB6/7 holddown" bug in the ICD2 though. If the ICD2 is in Programmer mode and is holding the target in reset, it should be holding RB6 and RB7 low. Thing is, when it releases MCLR, it never Hi-Zs RB6 and RB7 so you get wonderful contention issues, Vcc mysteriously plummeting and other nastiness. Unplug the ICD and everything starts working again... Hence why I need to hack together some form of isolator for RB6/RB7. Problem is, the few relays I can find have pretty insane power consumption figures for the drive coil. Actually, I wonder if a 4066 would be suitable as a replacement... -- Phil. | Acorn RiscPC600 SA220 64MB+6GB 100baseT philpem@dsl.pipex.com | Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxe R2 512MB+100GB http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Panasonic CF-25 Mk.2 Toughbook ... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist