> -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Wouter van Ooijen >Andre Abelian wrote: >> what's wrong with picstart+ programmer? >> 1. Life time warranty >> 2. firmware update is available on time The updates is not as fast as MPLAB ICD2. It takes them quite some time to support 18F2550/4550 USB PIC for the PS+. >> 3. programs almost all pics Not yet the dsPICs. MPLAB ICD2 supports dsPICs. >> 4. has case >> 5. excellent tech support >> 6. maybe more I've never used the PS+ even though I've seen people using it and like it very much. So I think it is a good choice but might not be as good as MPLAB ICD2 which doubles as a debugger and supports almost all Flash PICs. Anyway OTP PICs are not so popular any more. > I won't argue with the good points, but there are some wrongs too: > 1. serial only, does not work well with USB > 2. MPLAB only, no command line support There is a command line program picp from Jeff Post under Windows and Linux http://home.pacbell.net/theposts/picmicro > 3. (does not work on Linux - I am not sure)? picp supports Linux, Windows and Mac OS X. > 4. slow > 5. not well suited to ISCP > In my opinion, MPLAB ICD2 makes a better choice than PS+. If the price of the original ICD2 is too high then the clones can be considered. If the clones are still too high, then Microchip PICkit 2 or Wouter's Wisp628A can be considered. Regards, Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist