Ken wrote regarding '[OT] Is your oldest CD-R still readable?' on Thu, Jan 12 at 20:01: > How old is your oldest recorded CD-R disc? I've got CD-Rs that are darn near a decade old, and the only ones that have failed are ones that failed right away. As far as I've tested, anyway. :) I've actually got more pressed CDs (which aren't covered by the story) where the aluminum has holes or cracks... I did some research on this when it started making the rounds a couple of days ago. It seems that the CD-R geeks (I didn't know they existed either) say that the made in Japan disks are the best, while the made in China are the worst and the made in Taiwan disks are better than Chinese but still not that great. The manufacturers change around without changing their packaging noticably, so you have to check every time you buy. Fuji seems to be most consistently made in the Japanese plant, so that brand is apparently the favorite for when you can't check the label. Then there's the Mitsui/mam-a gold subtrate disks with the phenylcyanine (I hope I spelled that right) chemical layer for when you really want it to last. You're looking at about $2-$3/disk, but they're supposedly the ultimate for longevity. On any disk, burning at a slower speed seems to increase the reliability of the burn, as well. 16x is the sweet spot, where the drives typically go to a constant linear velocity (the inside pits pass the laser at the same speed as the outer pits) as opposed to a constant angular velocity (rotational speed is constant, so the outer bits pass much more quickly than the inner bits). I've unknowingly verified that with some cheap media I had before - the CD player in my car wouldn't read the outer tracks it if I burned at any speed over 16x, but I could read the disk on a computer and in another car fine. Apparantly better media would result in disks that the same car could read when burned at 52x. At least, that's my understanding. Looking at the packages of disks around me, the ones that I've had problems with are, in fact, all made in China, while the made in Japan disks I have all worked well. I bought them all before I learned this much, so it's somewhat neat to see that the seemingly random crud one finds about this kind of thing online is actually true inthis case. :) --Danny -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist