> Does anyone know of anything I could try next Have Magenta no s/w they recommend - surely they'd have something archived ? Or maybe they could point you at a past customer. Even if they aren't using it, they should have all the s/w you need Is your PC "too good" for it now ? For example I've got old programmers that run on a 386 (DOS or Win 3.11) but not on a 486 or better, even in DOS. The timing is all wrong on faster machines -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist