Reading some more on AM broadcast transmitter frequency stability: Modern transmitters >25kW seem to come with +/-2ppm over temperature range and can be 'improved by connecting to a GPS'. That would be at least 10 times better than an unadjusted watch crystal even without GPS and likely much better than 5 seconds/month. This is very tempting to try out imho. Just take a cheap AM radio, PLL it with its own IF and connect to a PIC ? Of course some work is required. I suppose that in more advanced countries the powers that be monitor the big transmitters and send them love letters if they wander off their allocated frequencies so they should be spot on, if for no other reason then to be able to talk themselves out of remote (dx) interference complaints. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist