On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Olin Lathrop wrote: > I think he's already seen that the power line isn't good enough at any one > point in time. I can think of several choices: I have been thinking some more so here is another choice: TV color burst would be very nice, but it is locally derived. The horizontal (and vertical), however, aren't. They should be related to the signal rate from the digital feed, and that is supposed to be accurate. So one could say that the TV's H and V rate should be traceable to a good frequency standard. They should be significantly more accurate then the mains in any case, probably a few ppm or less. So why not use a TV's V rate (equal to mains frequency but more accurate - beware of scan converting TVs) to drive a normal mains powered clock and see what happens to the accuracy ? Similarly, one could tune to 15625 Hz horizontal line freq. anywhere near a TV (certainly in a house and withing at least 10 meters of any working normal size crt TV), using a ferrite antenna not unlike tuning into a LW atomic clock frequency. In fact I have built such receivers before (receiving TV line freq. radiated as H field by the deflection coil assembly), but for a different purpose. A clock referenced to this frequency should be as good as the (digital) clock of the transmitter chain, and better than the color subcarrier probably. Of course the TV will have to be on air (cable box or sattelite). Watching DVDs or Nintendo won't work. I don't think that any digital sattelite or cable box can get away with an unsynched data stream. It would frame drop like crazy (this is very annoying to spectators). Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist