I'm trying to find out where I can find the following information. My initial google searches have only led me to half the answer. If you know a good source of information on how to solve this I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know. Thanks. I need to build an aparatus that will heat up a couple of gallons of water [max]. But in this tank there will be another container with milk in it. The milk cannot be heated directly otherwise the flavor of the end product can be affected. I think a little sketch will help me describe what I need help with. ___________ | ___ | | a | | | | | b | | | |___| | |___________| First, assume the b container is not in the picture, so, if a is at 0c and I need to raise it to 30c in 30 minutes, then I'll need to raise the temperature of a by 1 degree per minute. Easy so far. But, what I am trying to find out is the rate of change for a if b is at 15 and it needs to be at 30 in 30 minutes. So b will need to heat up at 0.5 degree per minute, but what is the rate of change for a in order to accomplish this? Thanks. -Mario -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist