>this was built in 1980 and didn't have a PIC in it. >The logic was just a comparator, It fair takes me back, (puffs slowly on pipe..) just proves that more complex isn't 'Always' better,it's pointless switching something with the responses of a heater on and off at a zillion times a second; a jet fighter's controls, now thats different!Theres a very apt saying here in England 'handsome is as handsome does' in other words don't use a racehorse to pull a plough. why not use a plug in timer socket; they're cheap and safe... -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist