> But aren't we losing sight of what Jinx wants to do? The conversation has wandered a little but I'm still in the market for a solution. Presently I'm waiting for answers to queries to govt agencies. I will post what I find out and decide to do as I'm sure it will be useful to others > I think he's already seen that the power line isn't good enough > at any one point in time That was a disappointment - surprisingly rough > 1 - Buy a frequency reference > for a few 1000 $, but that sounds like rather overkill For the value of this product and expected profit, yes > 2 - Pick up your local radio time standard transmission I'm waiting for an answer from RadioNZ on that one http://www.gpsclock.com/specs.html "It is not like the radio 'atomic' clocks that are accurate to half a second or so" - true or ad spin ? > 3 - Use a GPS that puts out a time signal I've an on-going project that may involve GPS. If so, that would be a convenient solution at that time. If not, I'm not sure I'd want to buy anything that will get used just once. Although I could tlook around for one to borrow. But I've been doing a little surfing http://tufi.alphalink.com.au/time/time_gps.html One of the links includes the following warning - "It has been reported by users in the USA, New Zealand and Australia that the LCD time display on most, if not all, handheld GPS receivers can be late by as much as 1 or 2 seconds. This can be readily shown by comparing the LCD display on a handheld GPS receiver with a source of known accurate time, such as WWV, telephone or true GPS time" For the moment I'll just see what's available free. As MRL promote their standards as being for exactly what I'm trying to do, I've asked them for more information -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist