> You can DO 1206 parts with a 40W weller iron, and naked eye, > but unless you're younger than me, it might not be all that pleasant No, isn't. You can do a few unaided but after that......... Rolf, this works for me To put down a cap or resistor, and put it down flat, I'll tin one pad first. Then place the component with the tweezers. Reheat the tinned pad so that the component lead becomes soldered. Whilst the solder is molten, gently push down on and adjust the part so that it lays straight and flat. When the soldered end has cooled, do the other. Don't apply too much heat or the whole lot will just come adrift from the board and end up stuck on the tip For ICs, tin one corner pad, align/solder/cool as above, then do the opposite corner It'll never look as clean and tidy as a manufactured item, but to stand back and look at what you just did, and think, "Damn, I'm a big boy". Can't beat it for satisfaction Until you have to do another one ;-)) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist