On Jan 9, 2006, at 3:22 AM, Russell McMahon wrote: > > In my case it's a "forced Beta" of less than one. Aside from current amplification, transistors do voltage conversion as well. It's gotta be pretty common to operate transistors at low current betas when driving high voltage loads. For instance, I'm working on a "HV" H-bridge for driving EL "stuff" from a micro, and while I fully expect to drive the bases with the typical 5-10mA in the base circuit, I expect the HV current to less than that most of the time. Even driving a 12V relay with a transistor would involve very low betas (what; 20-50mA @ 12V from 5-10mA base current?) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist