> That's why I objected to Russell saying that "utter catastrophe" was
> "*certain*" (he put the emphasis on certain, not me).

I explicitly defined the meaning of *certain* in the same email.

And it's certain by any measure that would make sense to Joe average 
consumer.
The only unknown is how big and when. If and sometime are unavoidable. 
ie we have already had several existence proofs which show it can and 
does happen - we have (probably) contained the ones we know about. In 
each case the events were unexpected and unpredictable AND used 
systems and techniques essentially indistinguishable to those which we 
are setting loose in the wild to do their own "experiments".

I didn't define "utter catastrophe". I'll accept any normal meaning of 
that. eg Hurricane xxx caused an utter catastrophe ... .


        Russell McMahon.

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