David VanHorn wrote: > I looked at the app note, and thought it was a little misleading IMHO. I haven't looked at the app note, but most writeups about crystal caps I've seen have a big flaw in that they ignore the output impedence of the driver. >From the comments here, it seems this app note is no different. For example, a 20pF cap at 8MHz has about 1Kohm impedence. It seems entirely reasonable that the PIC oscillator output has an impedence that is significant when in parallel with 1Kohm. I expect it's less than 1Kohms at 8MHz, which would actually make it the dominant part of the impedence driving the crystal. I don't understand why everyone seems to ignore the driver output impedence. I don't believe I've ever seen it mentioned by Microchip and I seem to be the only one saying this every month or two when this topic comes up. I think my argument is sound, but if everyone else thinks I'm wrong lets hear why. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist