I have fond memories of the little "lie detector" circuit I made back in high school. A little cmos 4009 hex inverter configured with two inverters as an oscillator that used a nice PCB pattern to include your finger resistance to help determine frequency, and the remaining 4 inverters in parallel as an LED driver. But it only worked SOMETIMES, depending on how you squeezed it. Turns out that the osc and the LED driver weren't actually CONNECTED to one another. If your fingers were in the right places on the BACK pcb, they conducted enough signal to make CMOS happy. Otherwise; not. An educational experience! BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist