> Just for laughs, what loading cap was specified, and what cap values > did you use ? OK Chuckles, here's the datasheet (only 40kB) http://www.hoorayusa.com/spec_sheets/hc49u.pdf I use 22pF on each side. The waveform looks OK on the scope - sinusoidal and symmetrical You say http://www.dvanhorn.org/Micros/All/Crystals.php "If your crystal wants 22pF, then you would start out with an estimated value of 44pF for each cap. However, you must subtract a bit for the parasitic capacitance, and the chip's input capacitance. The final formula comes out as C=2(CL)-(CP+CI)" Was fixed 22pF reasonable to start with ? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist