> I'm nit-picking, but I suspect it is more likely that the > receiver was sensitive enough at the red LED's wavelength. > LEDs tend to have a pretty narrow band output, whereas > photodiodes have a much broader optical bandwidth which is > why IR filters are used on the receivers. could very well be. AFAIK LED emission (at least for RED LEDs) is a state change (electron orbit step?), which would result in an almost single emission ferquency. The IR-filtering of an IR receiver is an optical filter, which is by its nature more wideband. I don't think I have the means to distinguish between those two causes. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist