William wrote regarding 'Re: [OT]: topcoders: competition among coders' on Fri, Dec 30 at 18:26: > As I've become older and perhaps "more professional", I've become > increasingly negative about programming "contests"; they are just > TOO far removed from what makes a successful product in the real > world. Perhaps you'd find the Computer Language Shootout to be a little more appealing? http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ Basically, the point is to implement several interesting algorithms in several different languages, to better quantify what languages are better at in terms of lines of code required, speed, memory space, etc. I've contributed and tuned on several of the programs and found it to be a reasonably pleasant way to spend an hour or two thinking about optimization tradeoffs, etc. It's also not for any particular personal glory - it's just about completing the dataset and generally helping to better understand what different languages are good at. Or maybe that's detached from reality using boiled down code snippets which aren't repreasentative of complex systems. Either way... :) --Danny -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist