Alas, energy densities in modern batteries are already getting close to the point where one can perform Science-fiction-style "convert the power pack into an improvised explosive", as demonstrated by some of the more dramatic Li-ion/Li-polymer accidents. I'm somewhat worried that there can't be much more improvement without getting to the point where at least the raw cells will be regulated by agencies like the US's BATFE, which is NOT to be wished for :-( BillW I would reply ... hurray that modern batteries are becoming bomb-like. Technology can be applied to make them safe enough. What I want to happen is that the BATFE is disbanded.... alas, a difficult proposition. AGSC -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist