Big battery manufature, faked their technology advance and faked their price as well is obviousely. From the real test and people's daily use, you can feel this fact. I also believe, the so many people following AD to buy, then following the momentum of their meney following to judge, will real encourage the monopolistic guy to go further. "Word" -> "People" -> "More Word" -------> "Money following" as side effect people don't realize. I notices another fact it may directly indicate big manufacture didn't do so much research that could give them so much technology advance as in their word. The lack of technology information and serious test results, about batteries! For me, I found it is very "drowning" situation when I tried to search test result and technique reference about how battery conducted during various condition. About battery, seems just no bady really do deep and really revealling test. I must point out, patent and technique secret could not be decisive reason for lack of the information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kravnus wolf" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: PIC based NiMH charger > My turn. Batteries nowadays just plain suck. Not all > of them but Energizer and Duracell DO. Quality for > alkaline batteries have declined dramatically in > these recent years! Just imagine the fluid ozzing out > of the battery after 6-9 months of use! Dremel and > sandpaper to the rescue! > > Terrible. I have plenty of these problems nowadays! > > John > > --- Xiaofan Chen wrote: > > > On 12/29/05, William Chops Westfield > > wrote: > > > > did you ever heard some one seriously telling > > expensive battery > > > > really give him more time of using? > > > > > > > I'm with "Microsoftwarecontrol." I am merely a > > "consumer" when it > > > comes to batteries; I don't have access to 'real' > > datasheets for most > > > of the products, don't trust the marketing > > literature that passes for > > > datasheets, have neither the time nor the budget > > to do my own testing, > > > and have little faith that a "brand name" battery > > performs better than > > > a noname brand from someplace like > > "batteryspace.com." Given the way > > > "US manufacturing" works, I don't even have any > > faith that the noname > > > and name brands aren't manufactured at exactly the > > same factory, with > > > nothing to justify the inflated price other than > > the fancy packaging and cute > > > animated advertising... > > > > > > BillW > > > > > > > I'd be very careful about batteries. Lots of the no > > name batteries, > > especially those sold in very cheap price, do leak. > > There are > > those fake batteries. There are those expired name > > brand batteries. > > And when they explode... Once the US$2 batteries > > leak and your > > US$300 Digital Camera died because of the US$2 > > batteries, I guess > > you will speak differently. > > > > Performance may not the be the key here. The key is > > safety and > > reliability. > > > > Even the no name and name brand are produced by the > > same > > factory, they still differ in the aspect of quality > > assurance. I once > > worked in a factory building cosmetics bags for > > different brands and > > we needed to be very careful about the orders for > > Chanel and > > Christian Dior and other top brands. There was a bag > > for diamonds > > and we were really very very careful. > > > > I am not saying that all the branded product are > > good or of good > > price-performance ratio. For example I do not buy > > anything from > > Apple and Sony (except Sony Radios) since they are > > normally > > over-priced. And the so-called branded in the > > consumer electronics > > field are somewhat compromised by the > > over-competition. However, > > I still believe to buy from more well-known vendors > > and suppliers > > since at least I can get some service from them. > > > > I am afraid that this has nothing with [PIC] now. > > > > Regards, > > Xiaofan > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. > http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist