I just connected ICD2 to a 16f877 on a blank proto board. Made a 5 pin header and can program the Pic but not run Debug. Get errors 0015 and 0038. So I hooked up the PicDem2+ that came with the ICD2 and compiled and programmed the Microchip Software. Same result, can't debug but CAN program? Even when I add _DEBUG_ON to the config word? Anyone tried the new MPLAB 7.30 with ICD2? Thanks, Mike -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist