On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 17:14 -0800, William Chops Westfield wrote: > On Dec 26, 2005, at 7:42 AM, David VanHorn wrote: > > > Poor Nicad is left in the dust > > As I take apart modern laptop battery packs, I am amazed by the > amount and complexity of electronics they contain. And I always > wonder what sort of performance could have been pulled from older > technologies (like NiCd, or even Lead-acid) if a similar amount > of 'smart electronics' had been dedicated to 'managing' THEM... Not much. Lead acid and NiCad are comparatively both very forgiving of charge curves, overcharging, and even deep cycling (to an extent). The majority of electronics in modern packs are there for safety reasons and to protect the battery from deep discharge. NiCads and lead acid were quite safe, they could take a huge amount of abuse and usually get ticking (of course, push any battery too far and bad things will happen, it's just the bar was pretty high before the bad things started happening). Li-ion batteries can be VERY dangerous from even the most "benign" types of things. Overcharging or charging them too fast can be VERY dangerous (think flames...). Discharging them too far can irreversibly destroy the battery. Aside from safety, putting more of the charging circuitry into the pack itself lets manufacturers keep their devices slightly more generic, passing some of the cost over to the battery, allowing cheaper "trim" levels (like in cars). The only real distressing thing to me has been the complete loss of ANY standardization of batteries. It would really be nice if laptop batteries were standardized. The batteries would be FAR cheaper. TTYL ----------------------------- Herbert's PIC Stuff: http://repatch.dyndns.org:8383/pic_stuff/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist