Sanyo "eneloop" improved Nickel metal hydride battery. Vastly improved (reduced) self discharge rate. Best thing about this is that others will no doubt follow their lead (patents or no) and the NimH battery will be much improved in the next few years. Surprise claim on 1st link below is a practical capacity in camera use of 4+ times that of Sanyo's own Alkaline manganese batteries. That doesn't make sense but is worth wondering about. - Retains 85% of charge after 1 year. - 2000 mAH - 1000 charge/discharge cycles lifetime. - Being sold as a true dry-battery replacement due to long charged shelf life Best semi technical link I've found is Not a vast amount of information - charging times suggest similar characteristics to normal NimH. http://rechargeablebatteryinfo.com/sanyo-eneloop-rechargeable-batteries.php This Sanyo link seems dead http://www.sanyo.co.jp/koho/hypertext4-eng/0511/1101-2e.html But Sanyo replied to a query from Steve's digicams Thanks for your interest in Sanyo batteries. The new eneloop batteries have just been announced in Japan. They launched them there on Nov. 14. We plan to launch them in North America at the CES show in Jan. They will be available in the Spring of 2006. We will also be offering a charger at that time. Various low information reports: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,123366,00.asp http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_5065.html _____________________________________________________ Toshiba Lithium Ion battery that - Can be charged to 80% capacity in 1 minute - Retains 99% of capacity after 1000 charge/discharge cycles - Is ideal for powering flying pigs. http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_2902.html _____________________________ While we're at it Toshiba direct methanol fuel cell. http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4331.html -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist