On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:20 PM, James Newtons Massmind wrote:

> We have tried, this year, to not "buy in"

In the absence of a religion, I don't really see what's so wrong
with a holiday celebrating the exchange of gifts.  Yeah, in the US
that tends toward excessive consumerism, but why should a holiday
be any different than the rest of the year?  (In the presence of
religion, replacing appropriate religious awe with gift giving is
less than appropriate.  I guess...)

BillW
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