William Chops Westfield wrote:

>On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:44 PM, VULCAN20 wrote:
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>>I did not sign it.  or continue employment there
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>Do you ever regret that decision?
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Not really from the overall stand point.  From what I heard from others 
the 45 days I was there, the pay and benefits were GREAT, but when they 
were under pressure they expected 150 % from you and there was not any 
talking about what happened at work allowed out side the work area.
as a person I knew  said what good is the money if you don't have time 
to enjoy it.

> <>
> All other things left aside, I think people tend to underestimate the
> percentage of one's energy that is taken up by a good technical job
> that you enjoy. Unless you already have a side business (like Dave's
> musical group) or a successful history of inventing things, I think
> you should just sign the agreement and see how things go. This is
> especially true of recent graduates who don't have much experience
> with 'how things work in the real world." Most companies behave
> reasonably regardless of what their lawyers want you to sign. Most
> employee/employer disputes tend to be weighted heavily on the side
> of the employee (wait till you see how much trouble it is to fire
> your know-nothing jerk of a co-worker without getting your company
> sued!) And how well your side activities are perceived has a lot
> more to do with your individual command chain than with the legal
> agreements you sign or don't sign.

Thats not so true here in Wisconsin.  If you do not have a union to 
protect you the company can let you go just on "they do not need you any 
more." 

> <>And when it comes down to it, a job you enjoy is MUCH more valuable
> to your peace of mind than being able to work/invent in your free time.
>
> And if I may be so bold: Having reached middle age, I sometimes wish
> I had picked up more hobbies that were not-at-all related to my
> profession.
> As I sit around with my hobbies (microcontrollers, electronics, PCBs,
> etc)
> after work (software engineering on rather larger systems), it doesn't
> feel much like I've stopped working. I find I feel a certain amount of
> envy for those co-workers that just STOP on the weekends and go camping,
> boating, skiing, fiddle with their cars; fix their houses, grow gardens,
> and so on. THEY know when they're working and when they're playing!
>
> BillW


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