Spehro Pefhany wrote: >>My development setup looks like this at the moment: >> >>PIC - USB hub - Laptop - ICD - back to PIC > > Where is your ground loop happening? > That's only *one* ground for sure. You can't get a loop from one > connection. So where is the problem coming from? Not sure whether that's exactly the problem, but one loop here are the two USB connections between the laptop and the PIC. That's a small loop, but it is a loop. If this is the problem, it should go away no matter where you pull the ground in those two connections. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist