OK...back to playing with my QRD1114 circuit!!! I'm a little bit confused. No issus on turning it on, its just a LED so 3.3V, using a 120ohm resistor, gives me a lil over 21mA drive, within spec. Now, on the output side ive seen several different applications, some make sense, others don't. I had just simply tied the emitter to ground and used a pup on the collector so the harder the transistor turned on, the more current flow and the higher the voltage across the resistor (feeding to the A/D of the PIC). But, this application.... http://roborific.com/node/73 has the collector tied to ground, and the emmiter to the "detector" circuit. I can't see how that works ? I suppose its all to do with the current into the detector if its a positive flow? And then on http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/compshop/qtilinesensorrev1.pdf it has a cap tied from the Vcc rail to the collector, to give a positive reference (?) and then a series resistor to the PIC input. Again, this is a current limit for how hard the transistor is turned on? So whats the best method to give the best response? I'm going to experiment some just want some opinions JJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist