>Ceramic caps, until now, were really big, however, and the >good ones are expensive. The not-so-good grades (while >they have a ton of capacitance) exhibit someweird behavior >including piezoelectric effect (ie, they act like a little >piezo transducer, meaning they create a voltage under >mechanical stresses) and drift with temperature and voltage. Another nasty trick that some will do is play battery. There were some nasty ones made in Australia about 30-40 years ago which were good at this. The higher capacitance and lower voltage ones were the best at it. I do not know what the chemistry was behind this happening - it may have been that they had a particularly bad processing facility that did not clean up after some of the stages, or something like that. I do not know if current SMD ones have ever been known to do things like this. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist