> Ok. I haven't expressed myself well. The question still stands (now > slightly rephrased): Using this meaning of "viral quality", is there > (successful, in actual use) software that doesn't have it? There is lots of software that is succesfull but not so dominant as to create a de-facto lock-in. Many compilers, fall into this category, just to name something. Adobe PDF is very dominant, but not closed enough to create lock-in (there are alternatives, both for the reader and the writer). In the OSS department there is everything that is BSD-licensed. > You say that GPL software has it, and that Windows software > has it. I think > that covers probably 80% of existing software (just a rough guess). > Extending the argument, any software designed to run on Linux > also has the > same "viral quality" (of requiring GPL software to run it, in > this case). I would argue with that: although running software that requires Linux indeed requires Linux I would only say it has viral/contaminating properties when it both - locks you in in the sense that after some time you have almost no alternative - forces you into something you otherwise would not do (release your own sources, pay $$$, etc) > So what software doesn't have that "viral quality" you are > talking about? Its of course not a black-and-white issue. I would say for instnace that without star office the uSoft office package (especially Word) would have this quality. With Star Office this is history (you are no longer locked in). The Apache server does not have this quality, because it does not force you into any actions (you are not required to release your HTML pages under any license). Again, don't take me wrong: the fact that I call something viral/contaminating is not a moral/ethical/value attribution. It is just that in my observation things have this property to a more or less effect. The dominance of Windows is (party) caused by this effect. The fear among some software companies shows that the GPL principle (note: not all OSS licenses!) also scores high in this category. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist