As far as i'm aware tying unused pins is only really=20 needed to avoid unwanted states on the pins,PIC's being basicaly CMOS logic I.C.'s.Unused pins float and can=20 assume high low or intermediate levels,or if you're really unlucky,wildly varying ones! Only the pins used during=20 programing are actually connected,so it shouldn't make any difference;or have i got it all wrong?%>( -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist