Another (largely) satisfied AC customer here. One warning, though: last time I used their freedfm.com (which presumably meshes tightly with their production line), it gave me scads of errors because my program (Proteus by Labcenter)(also very highly recommended) didn't generate a '+' in front of each positive value in the drill file. Manually adding the '+'s fixed it. Next time I'll set the origin upper left, so all values are negative... Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist