>Crimp causes a weak spot- the wire tends to bend at >the crimp and break off. The reason for adding the >extra length of wire is to offset the force >from the nichrome. OK, The only time I have seen nichrome soldered was after some soldering points had been brazed on, effectively tinning the nichrome with some brazing, and then one could solder to the brazing. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist