OK, so I have access to an oscilliscope on loan. :) I need to watch the 120 VAC line, and also monitor the other side of an optoisolator, which is, of course, supplied from a +5 VDC circuit that shares no common ground with the AC side. My question is, how do I do this on a single, dual channel instrument? I seem to remember from college that I need to isolate the scope using a 2 to three prong adapter, so I don't just short one leg of the AC line to ground through the test lead. that would take care of the AC measurement. The problem is, how do I also measure the +5 VDC side without making a common ground? Can I (safely) tie the AC neutral line to the circuit's ground? I see sparks and singed eyebrows in my future if I do that... my other option is to trigger only on the zero-cross from the A/C line, so I could possibly get enough "noise" by using the +5 VDC and ground lines for the measurement, and trigger on the A/C line. I'd get more useful data, however, by seeing both traces at once. --Michael -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist