> > But that's in your head Dave. It's like saying that you shouldn't > > use the word "whittler" around people who lived in Poland in > > WW2 > > And it's in my mind that the damage would probably be. Hmmm, while there's no need to be intentionally insensitive or provocative, I'd still use words that are etymologically correct For example, I refuse to say "spokesperson" if the gender of the person is known I will never use "womyn" because some angry women don't understand the "man" part of woman. Ditto "manual" labour I will not stop using "balls up", because it has nothing to do with what you might think it does. It is a perfectly legitimate non-swearing phrase Instead of me dumbing down my use of language, how about others educate themselves and not be so reactionary ? Exactly what I was saying before - it's always so one-way -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist