This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010102010606030801080503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How come every thing seems to come around to politics? Olin Lathrop wrote: > > No that's not common sense, just plain wrong. > > What you are really saying is that the tolerance is below the level > you care > about. That's fine, and deciding what the level needs to be is part of > enginnering, but you don't have and never can have 0 tolerance. > > There's enough public misundertanding about this concept that it's > important > (in fact irresponsible not to) for us engineers and scientists to > state it > correctly. This sort of erroneous statement and imprecise use of terms > needs to be squashed whenever possible to avoid even more confusion and > misunderstanding by non-technical people. > > Lest you think this is just theoretical agument, consider that > misunderstanding of this issue almost caused bad public policy. > Politicians > are fond of saying they support a "zero tolerance" to drugs. A few years > back when this was codified into law, the original wording literally > set the > acceptable level of drugs found at zero. For example, the Coast Guard > would > have been able to sieze your boat for finding any drugs at all. Can you > guarantee that there are no opiate molecules on your boat? Nobody ate a > poppy seed bun 2 years ago and dropped a seed? If you set the level at > zero, then you are really setting it at whatever the tolerance of the > equipment on hand is to detect it. This can vary widely making the > application of the law unfair, and it also changes over time as equipment > gets more and more sensitive. I believe the law was eventually > modified to > spell out a specific quantity before it was passed. > > I'm sure there are other examples where this misunderstanding has caused > real harm. > > So please, do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop making > rediculous > claims of "0 tolerance" parts. Since you're presumably a technical > person > on this list you really should know better. > > > ****************************************************************** > Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC > consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/produCTS --------------010102010606030801080503 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="rindesigns.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rindesigns.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Robert I. Nelson n:Nelson;Robert I. org:RIN Designs adr:;;P.O. BOX 373;RIPON;WI;54971;USA email;internet:rindesigns@charter.net tel;work:1-(920)-229-7152 tel;home:1-(920)-748-7443 note;quoted-printable:Custom design and building of small electro mechanical devices.=0D=0A= AUTOCAD work ver2002 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010102010606030801080503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --------------010102010606030801080503--