R. I. Nelson wrote: > You have the margins set with a tolerance of +-0.0005". > You have the tools to read to 0.00005". You have apart that is > supposed to be 1" DIA. It measures 1.0000" with calibrated mics any > one with common sense can call that a 0 tolerance part. No that's not common sense, just plain wrong. What you are really saying is that the tolerance is below the level you care about. That's fine, and deciding what the level needs to be is part of enginnering, but you don't have and never can have 0 tolerance. There's enough public misundertanding about this concept that it's important (in fact irresponsible not to) for us engineers and scientists to state it correctly. This sort of erroneous statement and imprecise use of terms needs to be squashed whenever possible to avoid even more confusion and misunderstanding by non-technical people. Lest you think this is just theoretical agument, consider that misunderstanding of this issue almost caused bad public policy. Politicians are fond of saying they support a "zero tolerance" to drugs. A few years back when this was codified into law, the original wording literally set the acceptable level of drugs found at zero. For example, the Coast Guard would have been able to sieze your boat for finding any drugs at all. Can you guarantee that there are no opiate molecules on your boat? Nobody ate a poppy seed bun 2 years ago and dropped a seed? If you set the level at zero, then you are really setting it at whatever the tolerance of the equipment on hand is to detect it. This can vary widely making the application of the law unfair, and it also changes over time as equipment gets more and more sensitive. I believe the law was eventually modified to spell out a specific quantity before it was passed. I'm sure there are other examples where this misunderstanding has caused real harm. So please, do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop making rediculous claims of "0 tolerance" parts. Since you're presumably a technical person on this list you really should know better. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist