whilst searching for the firmware for ICD2;without any luck,i came = accross this:- http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/ICD2_Advisory_51566b.pdf As i haven't spent the money on an ICD2,or made one ;0) the last = paragraph is a bit worrying! -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist