Olin wrote: >Tag changed to EE, again. Folks, can we please use the correct tags? > EE is not well defined even it means [Everything Engineering]. I saw the antivirus thread from James, so IT is considered as [EE], I agree with this but people may not agree. And quite some of the [EE] or even [PIC] issues will be considered by James as religious. > >I would like to shut off OT also as I don't want the annoying kid screaming >during dinner over pointless discussions about what is knowable, or >political rants about the Soviet Union. However all too often there is good >stuff mistagged on OT. RF transmission and reception is clearly a EE issue. >Why the %$*##^* wasn't it tagged like that in the first place!? > >I also hereby encourage James to be a bit more restrictive with OT. Some >off topic conversations can be interesting, but threads where people aspouse >their world views and nothing is (or ever could) be decided are annoying. >And there is definitely a double standard. Most such conversations are >banned, except for when James gets to vent on his pet peaves about global >wealth and power and who gets to do onto whom. I think whether a topic is >about something "unknowable" is a difficult and too subjective a standard. >The ones that irritate me I guess are when people talk about their world >view, and there is nothing to resolve. I don't know how to quantify that, >but I think there is something in there that could be a better yardstick >than "unknowable". > >Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled PICList. > Totally agree. "unknowable" and "knowable" are really too difficult and too subjective. In my opinion, all political and religious and some other stuffs should be banned. Engineering, IT, science and any technical related issues should be allowed even if they are considered as unknowable. Or James can separate OT into two parts (political and non-political). But I think various similar suggestions have been put up and ignored. So I will suggest people who do not like [OT] to unsubscribe [OT] and then use Gmane to read the [OT] part of PIClist. PIClist.com may be another option. I use Gmail (Windows/Linux) and OE(Windows)/Thundeebird(Linux) coupled with Gmane to read [OT]. That is a better option. In fact I do not subscribe [OT] from this address. I may want to unsubscribe PIClist totally from this address later because of the difficulty not to top-post from Outlook 2K (manually adding '>' for this post). -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist